Wireshark-dev: Re: [Wireshark-dev] Requiring GTK+ 2.4 or later
From: Ulf Lamping <ulf.lamping@xxxxxx>
Date: Mon, 19 May 2008 23:57:19 +0200
Guy Harris schrieb:
Jeff Morriss wrote:
packaging/svr4/checkinstall.in also uses the GTK version for install-time dependency checking but I can't seem to figure out how to get a variable in configure.in to populate that file when it builds the real file.

(OTOH it would be convenient for me to keep GTK < 2.4 but...)

At least at one point, I seem to remember reading that the GtkTreeView was changed in GTK+ 2.4 to deal with a performance issue. A little searching indicated that this was the addition of a "fixed height" option, so it didn't have to calculate the height of every single row:

	http://lists.wxwidgets.org/pipermail/wx-dev/2006-October/078556.html

which would probably be OK for the packet list if we were to switch to using a GtkTreeView, which would let us change the columns without destroying the packet list and reconstructing it, and would also let us avoid allocating strings for the content of all rows and columns by having a tree model that dissects packets on the fly (that requires support for fast random access to packets even in compressed files, but that's probably doable).

However, there might be some other issues with the GtkTreeView and large capture files:

	http://inverted-tree.livejournal.com/58999.html

	http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2008-February/msg00032.html

	http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2008-February/msg00035.html

although that thread included

	http://mail.gnome.org/archives/gtk-devel-list/2008-February/msg00040.html

which has a rather familiar use case :-), and the custom TreeModel is exactly what I've thinking of; perhaps that would avoid the problems being discussed.

Alternatively, I had a version of the GTK+ 1.2.10 GtkClist modified to fetch the column strings by calling a routine associated with the CList; I could try to make those modifications to the GTK+ 2.x GtkClist, and use that, although that has the disadvantage that we'd be maintaining our own version of a (deprecated) widget.
Well, reading the mail thread, we seem to have a very special case here (that the GTK developers don't really want to handle - which I can understand). So using our own widget is what we'll end up in the long run anyway I guess.

And I don't even think of it as being that bad, this way we can really optimize it for our special needs, so in the long run we'll end up with our own "packet list widget" anyway.

My own experiments with the GTK2.x widget (GtkTreeView? it's a long time ago) was very slow, but without using the "fixed height" option you've mentioned. So if you have a running implementation that get's us in the way we want to go (re-fetching data directly from the file instead of keeping it in memory) and that's not really falling behind our current implementation performance wise, why not try it out.

I mean fetching the column texts from the capture file instead of keeping it in memory is enough work for a first implementation step. Changing to a GtkTreeView (or alike) later shouldn't be that hard then ...

Regards, ULFL